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Post by The Chris on Jan 25, 2004 18:03:12 GMT -5
~I know the point you were making, but how you were making it was really funny because ya contradicted your self.
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Post by nightwing on Jan 25, 2004 18:05:57 GMT -5
Right... in a narrowed term. But in the broad scale, it was perfect sense. (More or less... )
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Post by The Chris on Jan 25, 2004 18:15:41 GMT -5
~Not really
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Post by nightwing on Jan 25, 2004 18:39:26 GMT -5
>Shrugs<
Whatever man. That's your opinion.
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Post by deathfromwithin on Jan 25, 2004 23:36:46 GMT -5
still krypto is lame sb is too kool for krypto...and i agree that he didn't ever had anything to do ..thats y he was always getting the chicks..nd that one time when he was looking for a place to live.
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Post by nightwing on Jan 25, 2004 23:46:19 GMT -5
Krypto? Lame?
Dude, that is complete B.S. Krypto rocks. I mean for one thing he is part of Original Superman history. Second, who wouldn't love to have a super-powered pet like Krypto?
And Superboy may be freakin' cool but please... He ain't above Krypto.
And yeah, Kon didn't have anything to do, and that is why he got the chicks and five minutes later lost them.
Tana Moon was the only thing remotely close to a serious steady girlfriend he has ever had and they had alot of problems. (Wonder Girl doesn't quiet count because they've been having that off-again, on-again thing going.) Most of the 'chicks' threw themselves at him because he was famous.
That's kind of shallow, don't you think?
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Post by atlantis on Jan 26, 2004 0:07:18 GMT -5
Can i just mention that the whole Tana thing still erks me. She was, what? 26 and he was like freaking 1!!!! YEAH ONE!! And she was too much like Lois Lane. Plus Roxy rules. Stooopid Superboy.
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Post by The Chris on Jan 26, 2004 13:33:48 GMT -5
~It's interesting to see were Geof is going with this, but I think Kon is becameing too much like Kal.
~I mean, at first they said he was human, had different power's, lived a different lifestyle to Clark most kids and hero's, he was his own person, differen to Clark.
~I always wanted to see Clark take moe responcibilty for Kon, but what I loved about Superboy was how he wasn't Superman. He was completley different in almost every way.
~Now, they say he's half kryptonain, has some similar power's, same live stlye to Clark (I.e. gLASSES, GROWING UP IN sMALLVILL!!) and now krypto. It seems to me like Kon is reverting back from the person he diffined himself to be. Sure, things got messed up for Kon, but he was his own person. It's good some of the new developments that have arrived from Teen Titans, but from my point of veiw, looking ahead abit, Kon i actualy becaming Superman/Clark/Kal. I don't think that Kon will be the person I've known and loved all these years. He is becaming an actual clone of Superman. almost like em in every way. It's quite sad, but I hope that things don't go like that, and that Geof does something good with Superboy. I think that maybe Geoff is trying to turn Kon exactly into Superman by giving him this new lifestlye. I won't kon to be his own person. He is now going down that oad were he may became like Superman, but I hope Geoff takes him down another road instead.
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Post by deathfromwithin on Jan 26, 2004 20:37:09 GMT -5
i agree with what chris said 100%...and i could care less about superman and his history the only reason i found out about superboy was cuz superman died and that was the only reason i read it and i always like sb better then sm and i thought he was wayyy better then anybody in the s-family(yust my opinion)
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Post by fab on Jan 26, 2004 20:48:38 GMT -5
Better in what way? Better hero? If that's what u r trying to say your seriously delusional.
Sorry that was a bit harsch. I'm sorry. It's just that Supes is in my top three fav character... plus everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I'm not close minded, you're just wrong...lol. Again sorry. I didn't mean that, I just love the sound of this phrase, that btw doesn't work at all in portuguese.
Portuguese is a tricky language, I often see foreign people complaining about how hard is to under--
I'm rambling... sorry again...
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Post by nightwing on Jan 26, 2004 21:25:23 GMT -5
>Time for my weekly rant! YAY!!! < I like Superboy, but I'm not sure if I would call him a better character. Or a clone of Superman
Clark always had a greater moral sense of responsiblity. He was more likable and he kept his ego in check. He was a good guy, through and through. Of course all of that stems from him having a proper family growing up.
Kon, who has been on his own most of his life, was a brash, hormone driven, and a bit of a show boat. He almost always seemed to put his foot in his mouth when meeting anyone and was always thinking he was so much better than the others just because he had Superman's genes. (i.e. his first meeting with Steel, Supergirl, Robin, and so on...) I mean, the guy once threaten Jimmy Olsen for calling him 'Superboy.' He was also a much more shallow character, always letting his 'dumb-stick' <You know what I mean... > to control his decisions.
Sure he's slowly grown out of that egotistical and at times annoying attitude. He is now a more humble and less impulsive than he used to be, but his character was getting stuck towards the end of his series. He had nothing else to do and had no way else to grow as a character.
Moving Kon to Smallville gives him something new to do with HIS life. He never had a family or went to school, or had to do chores. And he isn't handling things like Clark did growing up. He complains about it all the time and it's obvious that he misses the old days on his own. But aside from the problems he has with school, I think he likes have a family and a curfew and maybe even chores.
Conner will NEVER turn into another Clark Kent. The two people have major personality differences. For one thing I don't think he will ever become Superman. Clark is going to be around for years to come, just like Batman and Wonder Woman. Kon also may be more humble than he used to be, but he is still more impulsive and quicker to anger than Clark was or is. He's also more of a city boy than farm boy.
And as for the glasses, well think about it. Superboy's image was everywhere! He was always doing endorcements and stuff. He needs to look different. And since the glasses worked for Clark, why not try them with Conner. It definently looks better on him than using a brunett wig like Supergirl used to do.
As for powers, well they've always said he was going to develope them. Camdus implanted Clark's genes in him, but since they didn't have ALL of his DNA, they had to splice some from a human donner. They had the DNA to give him the hyper-senses but not the super-strength and flight. So the altered the DNA giving him Telekinesis to make up for that.
Kon is still his own character. He's just being his own character in someone else's world. I mean, there has been three Robin. They have all been thrown into similar lives, but they haven't turned out as clones of one another.
Dick was an enthusiastic, smart, and funny showboat. He grew up to be Nightwing.
Jason was an street punk with rage issues. He got himself killed.
Tim was born into a privilaged but neglectful family. He fought his way into the Bat-Clan and is a humble, quiet, cautious and intellegent young man.
None of them are like the other except for the color scheme. The same thing applys to Superboy and Superman.
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Post by deathfromwithin on Jan 26, 2004 23:31:37 GMT -5
i don't mean the better hero cuz sb would never be like sm but i like him better characther wize and i prefer him over clark any day...i agree with u robin that they r not the same but it seems like they r forcing kon into the role of clark..or course i might be wrong seeing as how the story ain't nearly done but it seems that way as of now
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Post by The Chris on Jan 27, 2004 13:06:08 GMT -5
~I never really said that Kon is becaming Clark, I just said that I hope Geof doesn't try to turn Kon into something he isn't. Take Impulse for instance, or should I say "Kid FlASH"? Not like their's anything wrong with Kid Flash, but Geoff (in my opion) is doing something new with the character's. I.E. character development, new power's, new costumes ect. I just hope that he doen't do anything too crappy with the character's. I hope that Geof doen't try to turn Kon into Kal.
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Post by Marx on Feb 6, 2004 19:26:06 GMT -5
Hm, I just read it today, I feel all late, anyway. I noticed no one mentioned the whole evil thoughts thing that happened at the beginning of the issue. Personally I don't really like SB having Krypto, but it might work out. And if their going with the continuity, they can't make SB too much like Kon, cuz while I haven't read the issues of Legion he's in, he's still has all of his non Superman traits. Although, one thing I can't really accuse Teen Titans of is following the continuity. OOoooo cheap shot. ;D
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